Desiree Goldey has a cure for toxic workplaces—but it’s not what you think.
As the founder of Do Better Consulting, Desiree has worked with many of the standard tools—DEI trainings, workshops, culture surveys—but found that more is needed.
Over time, she realized they were missing the most critical target: leadership.
“We’re leaving out the human element,” she says. “Why aren’t we training people to lead people?”
Desiree now focuses on the root problem: a widespread lack of self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and basic leadership skills—especially among those in the middle ranks and the C-suite.
Her approach is deceptively simple: teach leaders how to care for themselves, understand their impact, and show up with intention. When they do, something powerful happens. They begin to create more inclusive cultures where everyone can thrive, including women, people of color, and introverts.
From questions like “Why do you want to be a leader?” and “How do you want to show up each day?” she helps leaders develop a personal leadership style rooted in authenticity and awareness.
While she acknowledges the slow pace of change, especially among Gen X, she’s energized by what she sees from Millennials and Gen Z, who are demanding more from their workplaces and leading with values.
This conversation is packed with Desiree’s warmth, humor, and hard-earned wisdom. Whether you’re an aspiring leader, a burned-out manager, or a seasoned executive ready to evolve, this episode will speak to you.
What you’ll learn:
Why so many leaders—especially middle managers—are promoted without ever being trained
The hidden costs of leadership, and how to decide whether it’s really right for you
Why emotional intelligence is the most underdeveloped leadership skill in the workplace
The power of self-awareness: how to reflect, define your leadership style, and stay authentic
Why mentorship matters—and how senior leaders can change the culture one relationship at a time
What rising generations are refusing to tolerate—and what Gen X can learn from them
How to practice real self-care that replenishes your energy, not just numbs you out
Why the best leaders are always learning, always reading, always growing
Some takeaways:
Culture is built one leader at a time—starting with how you show up.
There’s no one right way to lead—but there is a right way for you. Find it.
Introverts often make the most thoughtful, empathetic leaders. Don’t overlook them.
Self-awareness is a superpower. Build it through reflection, journaling, and silence.
Self-care isn’t selfish. Without it, you can’t support anyone else.
If you’re not clear on why you want to lead, you’re not ready to lead.
The workplace may not always be loyal to you. Be loyal to your values.
You don’t need to solve everything at once—just take the next step.
Where to find Desiree Goldey:
LinkedIn: Desiree Goldey
Website: dobetterconsulting.net
ZRG Partners: zrgpartners.com
Upcoming Podcast: Talentless (launching summer 2025)
In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Intro and shared mission: supporting quiet and marginalized voices
(01:45) Why most workplaces aren’t built for everyone—and what leaders can do
(03:00) Desiree’s consulting practice and her work with individual leaders
(04:45) The leadership training gap—and why middle managers feel lost
(06:30) Investing in humans vs. chasing numbers
(08:15) The emotional toll of leadership—and why reflection matters
(10:00) How to define your leadership style and stay authentic
(12:00) Why some of the best leaders are introverts
(14:00) The missing skill: self-awareness
(16:00) Mentorship, cultural transformation, and “being the leader you wish you had”
(18:15) Why aspiring leaders need to reflect on why they want the role
(20:00) The trap of chasing status without considering the human cost
(21:45) Advice for ICs interested in leadership roles
(23:30) The hardest parts of leadership—budgets, feedback, and failure
(25:00) What Desiree learned from her worst performance review
(27:00) The lifelong work of becoming a better leader
(28:30) What to read? Why books are personal—and how to find the right one for you
(30:15) Self-care advice for leaders: put down the phone, go outside
(33:00) Where to find and follow Desiree
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